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 5/3/2006 8:08:34 AM
JeffreyP
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Chatfield
 (United States)
Went down to Chatfield last week with a friend. He caught 4 rainbows and a brown. I caught 2 chubs and a crawdad on a flyrod. Lucky me. My luck hasnt been that great! I could of swore I seen an eel-like creature swimming through a shallow area, but everyone I tell says I am crazy. I am new to Minnesota, so I am not sure what to expect.
 5/3/2006 9:54:20 AM
TheFlyMaster
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Re: Chatfield
 (United States) Modified By TheFlyMaster  on 5/3/2006 10:54:59 AM)

Nothing wrong with getting out and wetting a line, its a bonus to catch some fish

You could have seen a mudpuppy, salamander or even an American Eel (http://www.gen.umn.edu/research/fish/fishes/american_eel.html).  So I don't think your crazy and it is possible.  These eels can even crawl on land.    I saw one a few years back on the St. Croix river in Wisconsin.  So I would'nt be so surprised if you saw one.  Just think most people never see one in their lifetimes, so thats a plus

 

 


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 5/4/2006 9:27:59 AM
D.A.
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Re: Chatfield
 (United States)
I think that perhaps it wasn't an eel but rather a freshwater lamprey.

http://www.gen.umn.edu/research/fish/fishes/American_brook_lamprey.html

D.A.

D.A.
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 5/4/2006 10:25:33 AM
JeffreyP
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Re: Chatfield
 (United States)
Well, it is hard to say from these picture. It was almost like watching a thin, stringy piece of moss traveling cross current, but still downstream. It was probally 12" long traveling, but the wavy (and semmetrical) pattern of its' body probally made it around 16" long. It was a bit of a shock. so that is about all I got out of the sighting. Being a new flyfisherman, I spend too much time watching everything else going on in the water and not always my fly. Probally explains my inability to set the hook in a timely fashion. Just trying to get a feel for what is going on at that particular time, place, etc...
 5/4/2006 12:05:28 PM
jacksdada
57 posts




Re: Chatfield
 (United States)
what about that crazy asian predator everyone was talking about a couple of years ago? snake something in the name. i am (half) kidding of course.
 5/5/2006 4:53:06 AM
TheFlyMaster
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Re: Chatfield
 (United States)

Who knows what crazy critters are swiming around Minnesota waters with all the foreign stuff around now, so I wouldn't rule that out :)

D.A. that lamprey would sound a little more like it.  I haven't seen one myself, but it seems more like what he was describing.


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 5/6/2006 6:05:37 PM
jacksdada
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Re: Chatfield
 (United States) Modified By jacksdada  on 5/6/2006 7:06:48 PM)
i actually called in to KFANs outdoor show this morning. they said it probably wasn't a lamprey, and if it is we should be very concerned b/c they aren't suppossed to be down there. the eel was a good possibility they said, generally mn doesn't see them over 25" long though. another option they said could be some kind of dogfish. with all of the rain and flooding, backwaters and such, mn and miss river fish sometimes make it back to the smaller tribs. i remember a few years back caatching a crappie on the belle.
 5/8/2006 9:18:55 AM
JeffreyP
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Re: Chatfield
 (United States)
I suppose if I am the only one to see anything, then they probally aren't a problem. Now if I could just see a fish at the end of my flyrod, I'd be doing much better! hehe
 5/8/2006 10:32:47 AM
D.A.
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Re: Chatfield
 (United States)
Keep in mind that the freshwater lamprey are not fish eaters and don't attach themselves to fish; therefore, they SHOULD be in the stream as it is a sign of a healthy ecosystem.  Don't confuse them with the lampreys that have become a nuisance on the North Shore; they are not the same.

I highly doubt it was an eel.

D.A. (who has seen freshwater lampreys on southeast Mn streams on several occasions)

D.A.
On The Fly Guide Service - Fly fishing guide service in SE Minnesota and the surrounding areas.
 5/8/2006 3:13:43 PM
jacksdada
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Re: Chatfield
 (United States)
i guess i don't know the difference between the lampreys, just going off of what a dnr biologist said. they also agreed it probably wasn't an eel, but could have been, they have been spotted in miss watersheds. they really felt it was some sort of "dogfish?" that was somehow out of its natural waters.
 5/9/2006 4:56:38 AM
D.A.
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Re: Chatfield
 (United States)
Pardon my cynicism and skepticism on the dogfish angle, but I'm not buying that.  I'm very convinced what you saw was a freshwater lamprey....which are very common in the early season.

I've never run into a dogfish on any area trout stream (not even the Root, which is more than just a trout stream), nor have I ever heard of someone catching one in a trout stream down this way.

D.A.

D.A.
On The Fly Guide Service - Fly fishing guide service in SE Minnesota and the surrounding areas.
 5/9/2006 7:31:06 PM
jacksdada
57 posts




Re: Chatfield
 (United States) Modified By jacksdada  on 5/9/2006 8:33:27 PM)
no need to pardon your cynicism. it sounds like you have spent many an hour on the streams. i found the dogfish angle to be logically possible, but i too have seen nothing else but a rare crappie in hungry hollow on the belle outside of vasa.
 5/24/2006 1:15:11 PM
Flyhammer
18 posts


Re: Chatfield
 (United States)
Any chance it was your good old fashioned water loving garter snake?  Or a small Timber Rattler?  They are rarer, but are around there.
 5/24/2006 1:29:43 PM
Flyhammer
18 posts


Re: Chatfield
 (United States)

I had an interesting run-in with local wildlife myself this weekend down near Chatfield.  I was fishing a very small stream and was walking through a shallow riff when I almost stepped on the biggest snapping turtle I have ever seen, must have weighed 50-60 lbs.  He was just sitting in a shallow part of the stream next to a deeper pool.  When he found out I wasn't going to hurt him, he slowly made his way into the pool and swam under the bank.  Probably been living in that river his whole life. 

 

 

 5/24/2006 8:43:06 PM
TheFlyMaster
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Re: Chatfield
 (N/A)
Geez you guys fish some treacherous water down there in SE Minnesota hahahaha.  Mysterious sucking eels/lampryes, rattlesnakes, cougars (and yes I have seen one just east of Whitewater State Park), and now snapping turtles living with your trout.

Thats a big turtle you saw, lucky it didn't snap at your.......fishing pole.....a toe you can live out, but come on your fishing rod.....

Good luck out there and be safe...

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